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Slightly more awake now

Brains are almost back to normal.
Got back from comicon yesterday afternoon, went straight back to work. Good thing too, we were launched on more corrections that needed to be done for the morning, next day.
It was so hard to stay awake and try to finish it all! Was suffering from post-con exhaustion.

I've mentionned the Last Airbender movie manga adaptation in the last post. Though I am extremely glad that both Dave Roman and Alison Wilgus are on board, I am slightly apprehensive of one thing. I quickly talked with the editor of the books at the Del Rey booth in San Diego. He said that they *could* consider making more Avatar manga if, and only if, the two book adaptations do well.
In my head I kept thinking: "But it is the original serie that is more recognised and beloved! You'd have more chance of success selling those! Heck, promise to tell Iroh's story in the spirit world and you'll have a winner right there!"
You'd think there would be less risk and more chance of success that way, right? Businessmen would love that model. Less risk, more success. You know, the good formula?

*shakes head*
Why oh why are Nick and Viacom avoiding the wonderful possibility of making more money with the basic franchise?
I don't know.
I'll never understand corporate executives.
I just want more Avatar comics.
Na.
Did I mention that I basically sold out of Water Tribe books at SDCC? That's correct!
If I was keeping all the money for myself, in just one show I would have almost repaid completely the printing cost.
Zhao would be happy to know he's popular enough to be able to sell books, ha ha!


I now present you...
toys,ozai

YES! I got my greedy hands on the OZAI TOY!
It is just the prototype, unpainted and all so looking mighty pale.
I don't care.
It is shirtless Ozai.

Ozai Toy 02
Ozai toy 06
toys,ozai

I think Zhao is slightly jealous. He can't show off his assets as well.
toys,ozai
toys,ozai

Toy Zuko, trying to sneak away in disguise.
Ozai toy 07

Uh-oh
toys,ozai

CAUGHT!
toys,ozai

Zhao, trying to get the attention back on himself.
toys,ozai

There could be worse things than Agni Kai.
toys,ozai

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engelen
Jul. 29th, 2009 05:34 am (UTC)
I think the current situation in the economic world is the proof that businessmen are RETARDED.
I doubt they even bothered on doing some kind of market research.
*huffs in annoyance*

Also: that is one pretty family XD
AND SPANKING!!!! XD XD XD XD XD
rufftoon
Jul. 29th, 2009 05:39 am (UTC)
I think Zhao is a strong supporter of having more female action figure around.
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eiko82
Jul. 29th, 2009 05:35 am (UTC)
THERE IS AN OZAI TOY?!?! When did this happen?

But yes, I agree with you - Iroh's trip to the spirit world would be an instant winner. Same as Zuko's reunion with Ursa. You can never have enough Avatar comics.

Congrads on Water Tribe getting sold out! You deserve it ^__^
rufftoon
Jul. 29th, 2009 05:40 am (UTC)
Ozai toys mostly exist as a prototype. Maybe there were a few copies made that were fully painted and all, but these I haven't found...yet!!

Me wants more Avatar comics *pouts*
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rufftoon
Jul. 29th, 2009 06:06 am (UTC)
I'm sure your Zuko and Zhao have a lovely pewter stein house.
I'm also hoping Dave and Ali's work gets good sales. Hope hope hope!
dungeonwriter
Jul. 29th, 2009 05:52 am (UTC)
I speak for the fandom and the hundreds of people who lined up to see Bryan and Mike on Saturday when I say that a series on Iroh in the Spirit World/Zuko and the Search for Ursa would sell out a printing in the first two weeks, we'd pounce on it like my nephews on pizza.

Why can't they give it to us?

But your toys made me happy! Seriously, the Ozai spanking one...snicker...you know, it's a pity Ozai didn't start at that, not rev it up to char broiling his child's face. But then his son wouldnt have his emo scar!
rufftoon
Jul. 29th, 2009 05:59 am (UTC)
Let's just say that if Zuko had an emo scar from all the spanking...we'd never have seen it on screen.
Not without breaking a few television guideline rules.
That being said, I did draw a naked butt once for a television cartoon (the Lost World one...and it was Maplewhite <3).
I WAS SO GLAD TO HAVE HAD THAT SCENE! HA HA HA!
Nothing like breaking the rules once in a while.
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youkaislayer
Jul. 29th, 2009 06:02 am (UTC)
I honestly don't understand the marketing department for the Avatar franchise. I mean seriously do they do any research? If they did then they would know that the movie is looked upon with skepticism if not loathing from the original fanbase. They would know that we want the female character action figures. We made a petition and have puppet pal videos lamenting the lack of them for God's sake! But nooo, they think it is a better idea to throw all their money behind this movie and create manga for it that will only be read by newbs to the show because the original fans already have the episode screenshot mangas. I just don't understand it. Why are they relying totally on gleaning a new fanbase when they already got one who would willingly pony up the cash if they'd just give us what we wanted? Do they have a bunch of hogmonkeys on the staff or what?>.
rufftoon
Jul. 29th, 2009 06:13 am (UTC)
As I've said...I just don't understand these guys.
They have some sort of mysterious, esoterical knowledge of business, something we don't know about the sellers market, some unfanthomable reasoning behind merchandising that only makes sense to them.
I want to spend money on Avatar stuff. I know I'm not the only one.
There's just not a lot out material out there.

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andy_longwood
Jul. 29th, 2009 06:46 am (UTC)
Oh man, an Iroh in the Spirit World comic would be so amazing. I've considered writing a fan version for so long, but a comic version is just so much more appealing in my head that I've never really sat down to do it. Not to mention an official version would be a million times more satisfying than anything fan-made.

Nick just has never put much effort into marketing Avatar, for reasons that escape my knowing.

The Ozai toy looks great, unpainted or not. Are you gonna paint him yourself, or keep him as-is?
rufftoon
Jul. 29th, 2009 03:26 pm (UTC)
There has to be fanfics of Iroh in the spirit world out there. I can't see a fan resisting taking a stab at it.
I had been tempted myself, but felt like I couldn't do it justice so basically forgot about it.
For the moment, Ozai will stay as is. I'm afraid if I paint him I'll disfigure him permanently (Zuko may think it is a good idea).
amiraelizabeth
Jul. 29th, 2009 06:59 am (UTC)
I an so glad I got to say hello to you again this year! I loved the pins and Water Tribe. This year was a great comic-con and so much fun. :)

and I don't get the marketing for avatar. I am more than willing to part with my money for cool avatar goodies and things that keep the show alive. Comics, graphic novels, art books, soundtracks, action figures (like those really cool collectible ones that are a bit mire on the pricey side), etc. We've got so many talented artists and writers even here in the fandom that are keeping things going, it's a shame the big companies can't as well.

The thing I love about avatar fans is that not only are we loyal, but we will talk the show and franchise up to just about anyone. I've told people about the show on subway rides home from week, nurses at the hospital, random people on the plane, etc. And the show has something appealing for everyone. It's not just appealing to one segment of the population.

It is a great vehicle for products, especially books and comics. Heck, I'd live to see some original Avatar novels, like say for the young adult (12/13 + years) age group. I think they would do fantastic ( based on what I see our library patrons picking to read).
amiraelizabeth
Jul. 29th, 2009 07:01 am (UTC)
Elizabeth cannot type on her iPod. I am the typo queen
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inknose
Jul. 29th, 2009 07:56 am (UTC)
curses!!! the thought of more avatar comics makes me tearbend with happiness... don't they realize this?!
rufftoon
Jul. 29th, 2009 03:27 pm (UTC)
I'm afraid their marketers do not take into account tearbending when they calculate how well a product may sell.
tehlobster
Jul. 29th, 2009 08:14 am (UTC)
I wish I could have snagged one of your Water Tribe books!

I also wonder how many fans looking these guys straight in the eye and saying. "This is what we want, and I swear we will buy it." it would take to get through to those guys. (Art book, soundtrack, girl action figures, more comics - even a comic book, manga... I'd buy it all!)

And EPIC LOLS to the action figure pictures. :D
rufftoon
Jul. 29th, 2009 04:43 pm (UTC)
If I could gather all the people in the world that would love to get more Avatar merchandise, we'd probably trample them with our numbers.
nanashi_jones
Jul. 29th, 2009 08:28 am (UTC)
I have a long-winded theory as to why Avatar seems to muddle along marketing-wise, but suffice to say, I think marketing execs are spooked by the show. It's not a strict action-show for boys, it's not just a teenage melodrama for girls, it's not a grand epic for the family, it's... Something else. (dun-dun-dun) In the marketing world, that's anathema to the thinking necessary to "thrive" in that business. So for them, it's safest to let Avatar grow from its DVD sales and strength of the show itself. Just my two cents.

ALSO. The icon reminded me where the Katara is French-Canadian idea went in my sketch pad. It went very silly places. And as a KITH fan, I'm sure you'll understand my insanity. :)
rufftoon
Jul. 29th, 2009 04:45 pm (UTC)
I agree with you: seems like marketing never quite understood who their audience really were. They were told "boys, 8-10 years old" and did their work accordingly, not a step beyond.
Didn't matter if part of their audience was the parents, college students, etc...
It is beyond their capabilities and the mandate they were given.
Loving the sketch! XD
angelwingkitty
Jul. 29th, 2009 08:52 am (UTC)
LOL those are so awesome! So sorry I didn't get the chance to pass by and see you at the flight booth again! :( I got so stressed over lines, and portfolio reviews, and driving schedules it just got insane!

I really want to hang out though whenever you get the free time so let me know if you're ever free! We should do dinner! :)
rufftoon
Jul. 29th, 2009 04:47 pm (UTC)
I can understand the insanity part. Awww, too bad, Saturday night would have been perfect.
I'm in crunch time right now, so free time is uncertain at the moment.
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pretty_angel
Jul. 29th, 2009 08:55 am (UTC)
Oh god, I'm so with you on the rant! WTF is it with the people who make these decisions? I'd throw them a bunch of money right in their faces if I just could get and Avatar artbook, a soundtrack and a couple of mangas. Argh!
You know, that's why I said I'm not much interested if the manga adaptations copy the movie. I don't care for this crappy movie that'll never do the original justice. I'm more interested in the series and the original characters - not M. Nights fanfiction.
Seriously, Avatar could have been a cash cow for them. Stupid people shouldn't be allowed to make those stupid decisions. /facepalm

On a positive note: lol @ Ozai! No girls, but hey, at least we have sexy action figures! \o/
rufftoon
Jul. 29th, 2009 04:49 pm (UTC)
Same here with the throwing money in their face part.
Ha ha for describing M. Night's movie as a fanfic.
Which, at its core, is what it is. Like everything else that fans out there are doing with their fics or comics (of which I am guilty, ha ha).
And you're right once again: there's at least ONE sexy action figure!
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redvelvetaddict
Jul. 29th, 2009 01:18 pm (UTC)
Heh heh, assets.

More avatar comics! YES PEOPLE
Although it is great to hear you raised so much for charity, whooo :D
rufftoon
Jul. 29th, 2009 04:50 pm (UTC)
Yes, we need more Avatar comics.
For all ages, all audience.
evebolt
Jul. 29th, 2009 01:50 pm (UTC)
Hahahaha! XD Its lack of paint is a bit creepy, but he would've made an awesome action figure. I love the disguised Zuko too, had no idea they made that into an action figure.

I was wondering if you still had a pair of Watertribe books that you could send my way in exchange for whatever you might want (the Nil book, local goodies, name your price! :D )... If not, that's ok, I can still read the online version :3
rufftoon
Jul. 29th, 2009 04:52 pm (UTC)
There are 3 different costumed Zuko: regular armor, winter camouflage and blue spirit.
Not counting the dark armour or the few little differences in the different version of the regular armoured toy.
I still have Water Tribe books left. I couldn't bring all the boxes at comicon. I have enough for at least one more show or two, so a trade is definietly possible.
Let me think what would best tempt me...
tammylee
Jul. 29th, 2009 02:34 pm (UTC)
I will buy multiple copies of Dave and Ali's comic if it means a chance for more comics such as the one you proposed with Iroh's journey to the spirit world! WE NEED ANSWERSSSS!

There are so many more stories they could be putting out! I'd love a TPB filled to the brim with Avatar-world stories, even if they don't have anything to do with the main characters!
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rufftoon
Jul. 29th, 2009 04:56 pm (UTC)
There's no love for cartoons.
*headdesk*
North American marketing doesn't seem to realise the potential of a fandom, certainly not as much as elsewhere in the world.
Yes Japan, I am looking at you with your numerous show related products that make me jealous I do not have as much choice here.
Ah, studio execs seems to only touch tv or movie related things. A book must be like a foreign thing to them. They only get close to a book when it's the source material for their new movie-tv serie.
I nod at the possibility of more Dragon Of The West war stories.
See a darker side of Iroh, in a way.
(Anonymous)
Jul. 29th, 2009 03:50 pm (UTC)
Geez!
I can't believe you did that with your toys! Their honor is besmirched! Zhao is sad! All your toys demand reparation! More storytell photos!
waterdelph
aviaq
Jul. 29th, 2009 04:02 pm (UTC)
Re: Geez!
I love all your updates from SDCC. <333

and I feel the same way about the movie comic. Torn because though I feel happy for Ali and Dave, I know that Nick generally epic fails when it comes to marketing (comics/movies and all), and at the core this is probably what caused the Movie lulz in the first place.
*shakes fist*
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snapes_angel
Jul. 29th, 2009 04:41 pm (UTC)
Post-con exhaustion. I remember that, so well. ^_^

Score! Ozai! And LOL!Zhao, well... Hehe. And Zuko, caught trying to sneak out to see Mai. *snicker* And without Daddy's permission, well...
snapes_angel
Jul. 29th, 2009 04:47 pm (UTC)
Nickelodeon has never been particularly good at marketing. If they ever bothered to look at what people may like to see, well... There is only jsut so much Spongebob that I can tolerate. My daughter bored of it rather quickly, when she was still into it. She still likes Avatar (though she won't admit it, I know she checks on what's going on, every once in a while: but she won't admit to it, since her mother is a fan of the series).

I hope that the movie, and the manga-type adaptation, don't die because they've mucked up the original story beyond recognition.
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zfiledh
Jul. 30th, 2009 02:41 am (UTC)
Ozai: Banishment is too good for you!
Zuko: Ow!!!
Ozai: Should have done this to your mother first...
Zuko: What?!
Ozai: *SMACK* Nothing!
rufftoon
Jul. 30th, 2009 04:22 am (UTC)
XD
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neurona_muerta
Jul. 30th, 2009 03:29 am (UTC)
In my head I kept thinking: "But it is the original serie that is more recognised and beloved! You'd have more chance of success selling those! Heck, promise to tell Iroh's story in the spirit world and you'll have a winner right there!"

Down with you so far! I don't understand why Nick and Viacom don't do merchandising like that, or at least consider it :s I would certainly be successful!! Is there any chance that they hire you to work on those comic adaptations? Because definitely you are such an awesome comic maker, and your style fits Avatar perfectly. I don't know if I'd like Avatar characters in a more *manga* style than they already are :s I've always thought that Amerimanga style was the goose that lays the golden eggs, but whateva.

LOL Spanking!Ozai for the motherf*cking win!!!!!! xDDD I really would have loved this toy to be sold :__( Also the Zhao one is lovely <3

As always your toy!posts leave me craving for an Azula doll ;___;
rufftoon
Jul. 30th, 2009 04:22 am (UTC)
Even if I was offered the job, I don't think I could take it. Not with a full time day job.
I can do Water Tribe no problem, seeing as it is just pencils and relatively rough. But doing a proper book? Don't think I could do that.
If only a whole lot of toys had been made.
I wanted an Iroh too.
A Toph figure would have been awesome and totally kicked ass.
star_puppet
Jul. 30th, 2009 04:22 pm (UTC)
aw, lucky on getting an Ozai toy. ;A;
rufftoon
Jul. 30th, 2009 05:42 pm (UTC)
Definitely luck, and persistence.
I was hunting for that one for a while now.
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phoenixblaize
Jul. 30th, 2009 08:13 pm (UTC)
While I'm cheering for Dave and Alison, this concept of manga based on the fanfic cliffnotes movies rather than the show both confuses and infuriates me. Raar! It's completely nutters when there's so many clamoring for resolution on the loose ends left from the show. We wants comics, dangit... :P It bums me out like when at the panel at the NYCC they said the show wouldn't cover Iroh's walkabout and they they hadn't even thought of a name for his poor wife. She doesn't even have a name, it's so sad!

Back to nice things, yay for Ozai action figure and sold out Water Tribe! That is awesome. :D
rufftoon
Aug. 1st, 2009 07:26 pm (UTC)
Though we'd all love to know more about Iroh, the serie tried to stay focus on the two main protagonist: Aang and Zuko.
But hey, if they could make a story about Appa's journey, why not Iroh, right?
Can't always get what we want.
The prequel manga should offer us lots of goodies :)
soloproject
Aug. 1st, 2009 12:38 pm (UTC)
I bought the books from the nice people at the booth at the con and am so sad I barely missed meeting you! :D
rufftoon
Aug. 1st, 2009 07:24 pm (UTC)
My apologies: I was probably out running errands or taking pictures of cosplayers.
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ladyprophet
Aug. 3rd, 2009 09:27 am (UTC)
I can't really tell from the photo, but I like how it seems as toy Zhao as like a small tug at his mouth, like just the beginning of a smug smile :-D
rufftoon
Aug. 3rd, 2009 03:02 pm (UTC)
He has the beginning of a smirk. If the eyebrows were placed a bit differently, I'd definitely say he's going for smug smile.
sonne_of_sun
Aug. 3rd, 2009 08:19 pm (UTC)
if I ever get my hands on an ozai figure, I will take off the horrendous paintjob and do him over DX. I hate the company paint on "made in taiwan/china/korea" American figures... they are always making the great sculpt look bad.
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