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Couldn't resist.

Updating Water Tribe, part 4.
Once again, jumping back and forth between re-works of older chapters and new one.
I'm actually having a bit of fun illustrating a bit that is basically just dialogue. I guess because it is finally laying down the cards for the last act.



Touching upon something that was bugging me a little bit- how the Northern Water Tribe learned metal work. That's the history for this AU anyway...







Next, we will have Azula sharing a little history too.

I'm actually reaching a bottleneck of sorts. I'll go with it as far as I can, but expect me to put the updates to part 4 on pause. It is due because the other half of season 3 episodes haven't aired yet, and there is a line in one of Azula's upcoming dialogue that may give a very small hint.
I am not about to underestimate the hardcore fans of the serie. There are some pretty sharp minds out there that can make the links between A and B.
So no possible spoilers, I'm afraid.
(and no, I still don't know when the serie starts again- but if they want to air episodes before the next DVD comes out, there are some pretty good calculations made out there- just nothing official).

Did I mention I was going to New York Comicon in April? Still need to get a few last things finalised. Like transportation.

Comments

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ananthymous
Mar. 11th, 2008 05:53 am (UTC)
MAN, these are GREAT. So much fun to read!

Don't know if it's worth mentioning, but the page 194, grammatically speaking he would actually say "Allow my descendents and I", I believe. Not nit-picking!

Can't wait to see more, things are heating up! Azula is always up to no good.
rufftoon
Mar. 11th, 2008 07:15 am (UTC)
Oh hey, any grammar corrections are more than welcome! I will definitely correct the text, many thanks!
archangelbeth
Mar. 11th, 2008 02:01 pm (UTC)
Grammar Girl Disagrees!
No, "my descendants and I" is wrong! As I wrote before, pull the "my descendants" part out and see if the sentence makes sense. "Allow I to mine"? No. "Allow me to mine"? Yes.

That is the key to any "me/I" confusion -- yank out the other part of the sentence and see if it works.

He and me ran away. He ran away. Me ran away? No. I ran away. Thus: He and I ran away.

Let James and I go to the movies, please. Let James go to the movies. Let I go to the movies? No. Let me go to the movies. Thus: Let James and me go to the movies, please.
rufftoon
Mar. 11th, 2008 03:10 pm (UTC)
Re: Grammar Girl Disagrees!
Yay, grammar lessons!
That's the trick to see how it works. Sweet! Learned something new today.
archangelbeth
Mar. 11th, 2008 03:16 pm (UTC)
Re: Grammar Girl Disagrees!
*blush* See, my mom was an English teacher, and I do this editing stuff, and... *waves hands around helplessly*
ananthymous
Mar. 11th, 2008 04:59 pm (UTC)
Re: Grammar Girl Disagrees!
Ah, thank you for the correction! Sorry about that guys! DDD:
angelwingkitty
Mar. 11th, 2008 06:24 am (UTC)
Hehe like the little insert with Zhao in the snow, does a good job of keeping the seriousness and humor balanced in this plot :)
rufftoon
Mar. 11th, 2008 07:21 am (UTC)
Having once sunk in a snow drift, with the coat coming up and snow getting on the belly, I can tell you it isn't much fun.
alexds1
Mar. 11th, 2008 06:29 am (UTC)
Wonderful pages as usual X3 That story about the missing ore is so tangential and creepy! I love it. Last page last sentence, 'redoned' should just be 'redone.'
The specks on the last page were also a bit confusing since I thought maybe they were coming from above?
Oh and I like how you rendered the stormcloud as well :3
rufftoon
Mar. 11th, 2008 07:19 am (UTC)
Weird that you mention the last page being with the word "redone" (d'oh! typo!!), as there are two more pages after. Buh??
Hmm...I see what you mean about the specks. I wonder if I put a puff of snow coming from below if it wouldn't be better.
Many thanks again for your suggestions and corrections- always appreciated.
alexds1
Mar. 11th, 2008 04:51 pm (UTC)
arrgh thanks for the 'buh,' haha, I'm back on dialup so sometimes images don't load at all! fun X3
rufftoon
Mar. 11th, 2008 05:06 pm (UTC)
No problems- I remember all too well the joys of dial-up connections, having been on that until fairly recently.
king
Mar. 11th, 2008 06:36 am (UTC)
You know, I bet if you never explained about the spoiler, we may have never known. c;

I love the story about the old Earthbender. He's introduced so well. And Zhao falling into the hole... haha, I love how you fit in the humor without distracting from the flow of the story. Awesome awesome.
rufftoon
Mar. 11th, 2008 07:17 am (UTC)
Naaaa...I do think some people may catch on to the hint. I'll play on the safe side. As I said, there are some quick minds out there.
king
Mar. 11th, 2008 07:35 am (UTC)
True, true. We are quite the intelligent fandom. It sucks that the air dates are so late - I'm still looking forward to seeing your contributions to the series. ♥
(Anonymous)
Mar. 11th, 2008 06:41 am (UTC)
Just stumbled upon this story recently - I'm hooked! A real cool read - really well done -

Cheers,

http://skylark-.blogspot.com/
rufftoon
Mar. 11th, 2008 07:23 am (UTC)
Thank you very much, glad you enjoy!
queen_marshed
Mar. 11th, 2008 11:36 am (UTC)
Despide how uncomfortable it looks, the pannel where Zhao is neck deep in the snow is hilarous. XD

You're making us speculate about the future episodes now! I want my Avatar~~~~ TTATT
rufftoon
Mar. 11th, 2008 03:20 pm (UTC)
The worst thing about Zhao's position in the panel is getting snow into your clothes. Brrrr!
Actually, I'm keeping you from speculating about future episodes by not giving you extra "food for thoughts".
I mean, I'm fiddling a lot with the canon history (making a lot of it up), but there's something I really have to use for the story to make sense, and I'd like it to be based on the actual storyline for once.
archangelbeth
Mar. 11th, 2008 01:56 pm (UTC)
Aie, the bottleneck of spoilers! But *squee* Water Tribe!


(BTW, second of those pages, it should be "allow my descendants and me to mine" -- if you took the "my descendants" away, then the sentence would be "Allow me to mine," not "allow I to mine." That's the test for any "do I use I or me in this sentence??" question -- pull out the other part of it and see if the sentence makes sense. Of course, this may not work so well except for native speakers. >_> )


LOVE the expression on the last page of "needed repairs"! *cackle*

Azula's smirk on the last page. SO Azula!!
rufftoon
Mar. 11th, 2008 03:13 pm (UTC)
The corrections will be made- thanks for the grammar tip!
Azula has good reasons to smirk- if Zhao doesn't remember lots of things, she can even more easily play around with him if she wants to.
archangelbeth
Mar. 11th, 2008 03:17 pm (UTC)
she can even more easily play around with him if she wants to.

SO TRUE! *cackle*

(And I'm glad the grammar tip is helpful. The whole "and me/I" bit is confusing, the way it's often presented.)
rufftoon
Mar. 11th, 2008 03:24 pm (UTC)
Say, what would work better: "allow ME and my descendants..." or "Allow my descendants and ME..." Is there a rule to the order?
archangelbeth
Mar. 11th, 2008 03:39 pm (UTC)
There's no rule as to what would work better in the placement of the "me," that I can think of. I think it depends on what sort of speech pattern the person would have.

It may be more clear to make it "allow me and my descendants" -- then the "allow me" makes it more obviously clear that it's correct (instead of the common urge to change it to "I" that somehow gets drummed into people's heads; possibly when they say "him an' me went to th' movies"[1]) "Allow I" wouldn't look good!


[Footnote 1: That sentence just needs to be shot (except when used as dialect/slang). "Him went to the movies"? "Me went to the movies"? Correct is: "He and I went to the movies." Though by that time, it looks so darn formal that one might as well go, "We went to the movies" or "I went to the movies with him." O:> ]
rufftoon
Mar. 11th, 2008 03:43 pm (UTC)
I think I'll go with the :"allow me and my descendants..." for the simple reason that it slightly annoys me to have the words "me" and "mine" so close to each other if I did the reverse. My ears can be finicky sometimes.

I'll post the corrections tonight. I need to get to work now. Thank you very much for your help.
archangelbeth
Mar. 11th, 2008 03:49 pm (UTC)
Sound-aesthetics are valid and then some! O:D

I am delighted to have been of help. I hope you have/had fun at work!
tammylee
Mar. 11th, 2008 02:31 pm (UTC)
I really like the earthbender's ships disappearing with nobody knowing what happened to them. It's touches like this that really give depth to your AU world.
rufftoon
Mar. 11th, 2008 03:16 pm (UTC)
Thank you- I'm glad this little story deviation worked well.
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rufftoon
Mar. 11th, 2008 07:56 pm (UTC)
Thank you- I actually found myself feeling a bit sorry for the last mine master. I really don't know what happened to him and his ships.
There should be at least one or two more update of part four before I have to pause.
booter_freak
Mar. 11th, 2008 07:06 pm (UTC)
Azula looks awesome. I can't wait to see what she intends to reveal!
rufftoon
Mar. 11th, 2008 07:58 pm (UTC)
Thank you!
For once, Azula will be telling the truth (as far as "truth" applies to an AU).
meryl_jed
Mar. 11th, 2008 07:27 pm (UTC)
BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAA. *imagines the moment of helpless flailing that always follows after falling armpit high in a drift*
In my mind Zhao is slowly loosing every bit of dignity he ever had. X3

So...(out of curiosity or forgetfulness on my part)...does Zhao remember/heard anything about Azula or is he basing everything on "unknown powerful and high ranked Firebender person who invaded my house"?
rufftoon
Mar. 11th, 2008 08:06 pm (UTC)
Ha ha, Zhao couldn't have gotten out of there by himself.XD
does he have any dignity left? Maybe a little. Let's squeeze it out of him!

Zhao knows of Azula- the one person from the royal family that no one really dares talk about. And since there are a lot of imperial guards around, he assumed who she was.
Plus, I'm sure some presentations were made in between pages and panels.
meryl_jed
Mar. 13th, 2008 06:24 pm (UTC)
Good to the last drop. >D

Ah. Okies. Thanks!
(Anonymous)
Mar. 12th, 2008 08:34 pm (UTC)
In the last line of page 196, to be grammatically correct, it should be "most of it needed to be repaired or be redone completely."
youkaislayer
Mar. 14th, 2008 08:51 pm (UTC)
I love the history you've added to the Northern Water Tribe. It makes them seem more real. I do wonder just where has Azula been hiding that she has been able to allude capture by her brother.
rufftoon
Mar. 17th, 2008 05:47 pm (UTC)
Thanks- glad that this little bit of extra history worked.
As for Azula- she is crafty, inventive and devious. That and the world is a big place to hide, and it helps when you still have some support from within the fire nation itself (not everyone is happy with the current firelord).
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