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Just trying to prettify panels.

Yesterday on the news, saw an old colleague and acquaintance at the Angouleme festival in France, promoting his excellent book "Les Nombrils" (which he co-created with his girlfriend). Really happy that they got there and made it big.
Made me also wonder where I want to go next, career wise. Doing more comic stuff would be great, but I also love animation and working with other people in a studio on a common project. I guess it could also work with comics...

Anyway- part 2 revisions. Not much new, just one page added for better flow, some text editing.










Due to lack of space, I may soon have to destroy any old entries having to do with the first version (part one) of Water Tribe. If I keep uploading images at this pace...
I think next will be pages for part four. I may jump back and forth like that, for the fun of it.

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rufftoon
Jan. 28th, 2008 06:51 pm (UTC)
Thank you...I try to prettify them, and not uglify them. Not always easy.
He he, Zhao is rather easy on the eyes. I'll have a few more added pages with shirtlessmess coming up, actually (no, not an added hot spring scene, to the great sadness of Arluk)
As for more comics- I should return to Horus when I'm done. I just need to fix up a few story problems and push Zhao out of my system.
If that's even possible.
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rufftoon
Jan. 28th, 2008 09:28 pm (UTC)
I don't know how much it pays off, but I'm learning!
Arluk's version would be...er...entertaining. For the adult...crowd.
For Horus, best thing is to ask me directly- though right now, I have no copies with me. LEt me contact my parents who are stuck with my comic boxes back at home.

Zhao is difficult to exorcise indeed- though you seem to have found a substitute with Sozin (oh noes! Too many characters to exorcise now!)
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sdskuld
Jan. 28th, 2008 06:23 pm (UTC)
It's great and all, but when do we get to the arm-breaking???
rufftoon
Jan. 28th, 2008 06:48 pm (UTC)
Arm breaking coming up in the next set of reworks- gotta go back to that inn and introduce Yueh.
buttfacemakani
Jan. 28th, 2008 06:30 pm (UTC)
Good GRIEF you are fast. Hey if it's not too much trouble.. do you have an example of what your roughs look like?

Hahaha that'd be awesome if the last frame w/ the old dude said "We're very happy now" xDDD. Poor Zhaopoo :B.
rufftoon
Jan. 28th, 2008 09:33 pm (UTC)
Reworking old panels is fast to do.
You mean...really rough roughs? Sometime I'll throw an idea down in the small sketchbook- these are about 2,5"X4,5"- and they can go from really scribbly to almost clean:
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"We're very happy now"- Oh Snap! XD
Zhao would have strangled him on the spot instead of just punching him.
buttfacemakani
Jan. 29th, 2008 08:06 am (UTC)
Ah coool xD So then do you sketch it out on the full size paper with come kind of colored pencil? or.. just.. draw it like it appears as a finished product? D:

Ahaha I like belligerent scribbly Zhao :D.
rufftoon
Jan. 29th, 2008 04:35 pm (UTC)
It depends on the project:
For the whole Zhao thing, I start really small: 5,5"X8,5"- first using colerase pencils and darkening the lines with a regular pencil (HB or B).
IF it was official work, I'd go on a much bigger paper (approx. 8"X12" or bigger), do straight HB pencils and then ink. I couldn't ink at a smaller format, I'd mess things up.
If I was to clean up properly a Water Tribe page, I think I'd photocopy it a bit bigger and simply retrace-cleanup one last time and then ink. Or maybe even keep it just pencils, as I've seen many comics now doing very well with just pencil lines if color has been added (thinks of Amulet by Kazu Kibuishi).

The important thing, I guess, is to work at the size you're comfortable with depending on the nature of the work. I've seen pages of comics on huge 11X17 board, and others drawn on regular 8,5"X11 board.
tammylee
Jan. 28th, 2008 07:10 pm (UTC)
*echoes foxy*
So much attention to detail and wonderful 'shots' in this comic.
That first panel IS ME TODAY! -46C with the wind chill! ;__;
I am dreaming of a hot bath when I get home from work.
rufftoon
Jan. 28th, 2008 07:27 pm (UTC)
-46C...are you my parents' neighbour or something? They've been going through some nasty chilly weather too. If I was in your place a hot bath would be all I could think of too.
azvolrien
Jan. 28th, 2008 07:18 pm (UTC)
Gotta love Zhao's face in the baths there.

When you said 'Les Nombrils', my brain immediately substituted 'El Nombre'.
rufftoon
Jan. 28th, 2008 07:30 pm (UTC)
I'd like to be in his place...up to a certain point. At least with hot baths...*sigh* <3
"Les Nombrils" would translate as "Belly buttons". Not only do the three main characters have clothes that always show their bellies, but there's a nice french expression that could translate as "thinking you're the center of the world" - "etre le nombril du monde".
king
Jan. 28th, 2008 10:06 pm (UTC)
These are great! Such a great transition from part 1 to part 2. It feels so natural and professional and just awesome!

One thing I noticed, however, is in the last panel on page 58, it says, "Crossed out in every documents." So, the S would be a typo, unless I'm reading it wrong.

GAAH I love these, and I can't believe you work this fast! You're amazing!!!
rufftoon
Jan. 28th, 2008 10:21 pm (UTC)
Thank you! Glad the transition works.
Oops, nope it could be a typo- you mean the "S" in "documents" is one s too many. Drats, I'll never get it right! It will be fixed, thanks!
engelen
Jan. 29th, 2008 05:34 am (UTC)
I sohuld hurry and read the older pages then!
you know... the unfinished ones...
look around for them...
rufftoon
Jan. 29th, 2008 05:39 am (UTC)
If you want to see how bad these used to be- here's the link to the first page of chapter one.

http://pics.livejournal.com/rufftoon/pic/000190c4/g71

You can see and cringe at the others by clicking on the "next page" at the top right.
engelen
Jan. 29th, 2008 07:36 pm (UTC)
Oh God...

I mean, it'snot horrible (FAR from it), but it is so... so different XD
sketchy and all XD

mmm, I guess I'll read these, but still look at the "fixed" ones! =D
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rufftoon
Jan. 29th, 2008 09:34 pm (UTC)
Re: Amazing, yet again!
There would definitely be copyright issues. I wouldn't be able to sell them in any case.
I'm slowly uploading the whole thing on DA, at the Zhao club here:

http://noselfcontrol.deviantart.com/

It might make for easier reading.
ladyprophet
Jan. 29th, 2008 07:27 pm (UTC)
Looking at your comic always reminds me what type of cartoonist I want to be... Even if there is many different styles I really like the ones with details and more "human" like things. Even if the cartoon style is very visible as well.
And I think you're a very good artist at that.
So not just reading this, but also SEE your work makes me inspired!

And as with the work, what ever path you choose, I hope I'll be able to follow your work!
rufftoon
Jan. 29th, 2008 09:40 pm (UTC)
Many thanks! *blushes*
I tried going more realistic looong ago, but failed. So, I decided to stay with my strenght, which is more a cartoony style. I'm having more fun too :D
Mind you, the influence of details and realism can totally mix with cartoony- Herge (creator of Tintin) was a master of that.
ladyprophet
Feb. 1st, 2008 10:22 am (UTC)
Well, if it IS cartoon it should look like cartoon ^.^

Another thing that I really think you inspire me in is that you always answere comments! And isn't afraid to share with the fans. Somehow that makes one really feel like 'I can become like this person!'. And in the answeres it really feel like you enjoy doing that so it's so natural ^.^

About Herge... I have read some Tintin, never quite enjoied the stories in them though. But maybe I should give them another chance and check out the style :-)
rufftoon
Feb. 1st, 2008 04:52 pm (UTC)
Answering comments is not always easy, but I try.
If you do pick up another Tintin book, look at the craft- the solid drawings, the detailed backgrounds, and the harmony of colors.
Tintin in Tibet is pretty good, along with Flight 714 for Sidney...and the Temple of The Sun too! (aw heck, I think I enjoyed the serie more than you did)
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rufftoon
Jan. 29th, 2008 09:42 pm (UTC)
I'm glad to take the time and fix a few things- the added page helps with a transition that used to be a bit too abrupt.
He he, Water Tribe underwear seems to bring a lot of attention.
Oooh, typo! I'll fix that on the DA page. Thanks for the sharp eyes...I guess people were too busy staring at the swimwear rather than the word.
(Anonymous)
Jan. 30th, 2008 06:40 pm (UTC)
Typo
On page 57, in the first panel, "day" is written twice.
rufftoon
Jan. 30th, 2008 07:05 pm (UTC)
Re: Typo
Holee frik, you're totally right!
I'm gonna have to fix that. Thanks for pointing it out, very appreciated.
aidosaur
Jan. 30th, 2008 06:54 pm (UTC)
Haha! This is totally my favorite scene. :D It's so candid and Zhao is completely out of his element. Awesome, as always! :D
snapes_angel
Feb. 1st, 2008 02:42 pm (UTC)
First, it's a snicker, and then it's an "aww". (figured I should say something. I've had the pages open for a couple of days, lol)/
rufftoon
Feb. 1st, 2008 04:49 pm (UTC)
Never feel any pressure in writing comments or anything (we got enough other stress in our lives, ugh!)- but it is nice to hear from you :D
snapes_angel
Feb. 1st, 2008 07:23 pm (UTC)
Well, I think you're doing great work! And the revisions definitely add to the story line!
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