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No, not much...

(title of post actual title of an old song my dad has on a 45 vinyl...my brain is going very very nostalgic these days).

Not much happening- work work and more work, but this time I have to take the time and go to bed earlier. Trying to reduce some stress by getting more sleep. Should be good, right?

Sorry if updates on the water tribe part might go slower and patchier- that's an extra juggling ball I will leave on the ground longer compared to the other work. Still...Goodies tonight!



Rough pages done a bit sloppier than usual. Sorry about that.
I'll be starting to tie a few loose ends here and there. Try to, anyway.





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rohantm
Sep. 13th, 2007 02:05 am (UTC)
These last eight pages have been very powerful. I am really enjoying them.

You know, if you didn't say that such and such page was sloppier than usual, we would never know. =) Even when you say they are, I peer at them and don't know what you're talking about.

Page 114-- if I took the dialogue away, Zhao's expression in frame 2 looks as if it should come after the expression in frame 3. Horrified, then flinching. It feels a little strange as is.
rufftoon
Sep. 13th, 2007 02:09 am (UTC)
Gotta keep the pace, gotta keep the pace, not easy...
Glad you enjoy though, thank you!
I made Zhao flinch first, because Arnook was so close to him. Does it make sense, or should I think of swapping them?
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star_puppet
Sep. 13th, 2007 02:21 am (UTC)
Arnook should've hit him harder. >D
Zhao is flinching, wow...that's something. *sniggers*
rufftoon
Sep. 13th, 2007 03:39 am (UTC)
Yeah, Arnook should have, while he easily could. Still, hiting a confused man is not as satisfying, I guess.
One of the rare times Zhao would flinch. If not the only time.
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tammylee
Sep. 13th, 2007 02:37 am (UTC)
SPOOKY MOON IS SPOOKY!
I'm glad we're getting this little bit of backstory.
Thank you for doing more pages!
rufftoon
Sep. 13th, 2007 03:41 am (UTC)
Oooh, spooky moon ghost thing.
My pleasure, still having fun with these.
canterlope
Sep. 13th, 2007 02:46 am (UTC)
I agree with Rohantm; it seems like page 114 would flow better if panels two and three were reversed. It feels abit odd having him flinch first, then shrink back in horror. But I love that terrified expression. It's so rare to see Zhao looking like that.

And the water tribe ninja dudes on page 111 are awesome.
rufftoon
Sep. 13th, 2007 03:46 am (UTC)
Hmmm...maybe I should swap expressions after all. Acting it out, and drawing it sequentially doesn't always work. I will think about it seriously, thank you very much for your input.
I've always liked those masked water benders. We see them a little bit during the North Pole siege episode.
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rufftoon
Sep. 13th, 2007 03:49 am (UTC)
Wow, thank you. This is very high praise indeed. *double blushes*
angeladunn
Sep. 13th, 2007 04:11 am (UTC)
D: wow...that...was deep...

is it wrong of me to really crave giving Zhao a hug??
He looks like he needs one! The poor big guy.
He looks almost like a child on the third and fourth page... :<~ You got the moon protecting you, though!! :>
(and your fangirls XD;; )
rufftoon
Sep. 13th, 2007 02:05 pm (UTC)
Heh, spirit pond deep (that's about knee deep, physically ;) )
Ah, Zhao's all confusticated there- perfect time for a hug, he won't burn you.
Because usually, he's way too macho to let a bunch of fangirls (or fanboys) protect him.
alexds1
Sep. 13th, 2007 04:43 am (UTC)
Very nice pages... poor Zhao, in that flashback, though I guess he does deserve a lot of smacking around. I also like how you showed the 'sign' of the moon reflected like that, almost looking like an eye.

Anticipating the next pages, as ever :D
rufftoon
Sep. 13th, 2007 02:07 pm (UTC)
He does deserve smacking around, and some more smacking and kicking when he is down.
But we wouldn't change him anyway :)
The question is, did the moon appear to see Zhao getting deservedly beaten up, or to actually give him a break? The jury is still out.
sdskuld
Sep. 13th, 2007 05:29 am (UTC)
Yes! I actually know what's going on in the flashback! ^^

Now I have to hurry up and watch some DVDs before you start -another- AU. Zhao in the Earth Tribe!
rufftoon
Sep. 13th, 2007 02:03 pm (UTC)
Haha, why did I have visions of Zhao amongst the Swamp people!!
*gigglesnort*
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sylvacoer
Sep. 13th, 2007 07:04 am (UTC)
I read Horuk and hear my mom - one time a guy had the balls to mess with my sister and my mom put the fear of god into him. She told me later, "NO ONE messes with my babies and gets away with it!" So yes, i completely understand where Horuk and arnook are coming from. And I almost cried at the expression on arnook's face when he saw the moon reflected in the spirit pond. (*~*)

So, now I wonder - will Horuk give zhao time to explain or just gut him? *is genuinely worried*
rufftoon
Sep. 13th, 2007 02:11 pm (UTC)
haha, cool your mom did that :D
As for Horuk...he usually is more of the "gut now, explanation later" type. But Zhao might have a chance, as Horuk doesn't know yet which firebenders are involved in the whole mess.
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rufftoon
Sep. 13th, 2007 02:12 pm (UTC)
In this flashback, he's just been spit out by the Ocean Spirit. His brain's not all there yet.
And even later, one would wonder how much of his brains is there ;)
takumee
Sep. 13th, 2007 10:08 am (UTC)
I think that you did a really great job with these few pages. The comics always seems to interesting to read, and its great to see things from Chief Arnook's point of view.
And as always, I look forward to more updates!
rufftoon
Sep. 13th, 2007 02:13 pm (UTC)
Thank you very much.
I was looking back at the first part, and it kept nagging me how much Arnook seemed to defend Zhao in a way. Hope this helps a bit.
rock_rhapsody
Sep. 13th, 2007 02:37 pm (UTC)
I love the conflict between Arnook and Zhao.. and all five pages were telling and powerful. Brilliant as usual..sloppy? where? (nostalgia is a wonderfully melancholic feeling..how long ago was season 1..?)
rufftoon
Sep. 13th, 2007 02:52 pm (UTC)
Thank you.
I misread you at first, and thought the conflict between Horuk and Arnook. D'Oh! Must pay better attention, you said ZHAO and Arnook.
Haha, season one nostalgia!
Heck, I miss the days of the Mysterious Cities Of Gold.
Good thing I have the DVDs.
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snapes_angel
Sep. 13th, 2007 05:54 pm (UTC)
For the bit with the moon and Zhao's loss if memory...

I think it was nicely done, and I also think that Arnook remembered that Yue would have pleaded for mercy on Zhao's behalf, considering he was a quivering mass of protoplasm at the time his memory loss and all. From what I remember of the episodes, she would be that type of person. At least, that's what I gathered from her mannerisms and the like. Also, we knew he had to serve teh big porpoise purpose down the line.
rufftoon
Sep. 13th, 2007 06:08 pm (UTC)
Perhaps Arnook needed to be reminded to show mercy.
I also got the feeling that Yue would be the kind type of person, one to forgive...especially since Zhao's story is not quite told, yet ;)
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pooryorick
Sep. 13th, 2007 06:21 pm (UTC)
The character development you've got going is really remarkable - there's a lot of serious emotion and complicated personalities happening, and it all feels very strong.

Great stuff, as always. Try not to work too hard!
rufftoon
Sep. 13th, 2007 06:41 pm (UTC)
Aww, thank you very much. I try to make it work...
azvolrien
Sep. 13th, 2007 07:08 pm (UTC)
I'm in total awe of your skill at drawing expressions.

('Prisoner' only has one N. I'm sorry, I can't help correcting spelling!)
rufftoon
Sep. 13th, 2007 08:25 pm (UTC)
Thank you very much!
Oh no please, keep pinpointing grammar and spelling mistakes! English is not my first language, and sometimes bits of french and english will get tangled up. Prisoner in french is Prisonnier. Very close, and with 2 "n". It can get confusticating ;)
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vefa
Sep. 13th, 2007 07:41 pm (UTC)
maybe not much, but still better than nothing
superbes, superbes planches... le récit coule toujours parfaitement, et le dessin est toujours aussi impressionnant. Ok, la 5ème page est un peu moins léchée que d'habitude, mais eh! du coup on se concentre sur le (tadadaaam) CLIFFHANGER!
Aaaah, que va-t-il arriver à notre (parfois) "cher" Zhaoka?
*attend la suite avec impatience*
rufftoon
Sep. 13th, 2007 08:29 pm (UTC)
Re: maybe not much, but still better than nothing
Un très gros merci (wouh! un des rares post en français!).
C'est encore juste des croquis- si un jour je nettoie tout ça (HahAHa!, dans mes rêves), je vais essayer de tout arranger. Du moins, d'améliorer.
Et j'aime les cliffhangers, j'y suis accros.
ambrmerlinus
Sep. 13th, 2007 09:38 pm (UTC)
Chief Arnook's breakdown is rather touching.
rufftoon
Sep. 13th, 2007 10:20 pm (UTC)
Poor Arnook- caught between conflicting emotions of revenge and loss for his daughter.
And I only give him one panel for it.
onion_sama
Sep. 13th, 2007 10:02 pm (UTC)
I think everyone else pretty much said what I wanted to say about these new pages XD I'm glad the story is rolling along (It's like waiting for the next installment in a movie trilogy, you just keep waiting with bated breath!) and well, your 'sloppy art' is still pretty awesome to me!
I don't know if anyone asked this before, and so sorry if it's repeated again - but do you go about the story as you go along, or do you already had everything roughly charted out?
rufftoon
Sep. 13th, 2007 10:15 pm (UTC)
Thank you very much.
As far as story goes, everything is pretty much roughed out in my head. I've got notes written also, just in case I forget something. It also allows me to replay scenes in my head, and edit, cut, add or twist events. I try to go for less talk, but that's something I still have to learn.
Heck, just last night, I changed the ending for part 3 again. This must be..oooh, version 5, I think. Easily. But I think its more solid than before so it will stay.
I'm also messing around with stuff for part four. Zhao is making me cut some action he doesn't like. What a control freak.
angelwingkitty
Sep. 14th, 2007 01:22 am (UTC)
I'm truly loving these little tid bits of the past. Amazing! Powerful! Enthrawling! I can't beging to express it! Even if we're not together to chat about the story in person, reading it leaves me feeling as if I've just been chatting for an hour with you in your room back at Nick! I love it! XD
rufftoon
Sep. 14th, 2007 01:35 pm (UTC)
Aw, I do miss those little throwing ideas around. Well, mostly me bouncing ideas off you, and checking your reaction (and I'm changing stuff in part 4- some of the things I talked to you about in SDCC don't exist anymore *snif*)
But your feedback was always appreciated.
archangelbeth
Sep. 14th, 2007 11:25 am (UTC)
Good luck getting more sleep.

(We had our cable accidentally disconnected (dang clumsy person messin' with our cable box smashed our connection when he put the box back, apparently!) from Monday to Thursday. I missed Water Tribe!)

*reads* Aiiieee! And awww! And... *sniffle* -- amnesia-Zhao is so... *sniffle* And oh, oh, oh, no moon in the sky, just the moon in the reflection, oh. Ohhhhhhhhh.
rufftoon
Sep. 14th, 2007 01:37 pm (UTC)
I've managed getting a bit more sleep. It has eaten at the work time though. Grrr. Ah well...
I didn't update that much, so you didn't miss anything from me on my part. But heck, there was almost a whole week without internet- we're so used to it by now, it's like...like...a week without a fridge or something.

Glad you like the new pages :)
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rufftoon
Sep. 14th, 2007 04:27 pm (UTC)
Thanks. I am getting slightly more rest these days. Should help.
It's weird showing Zhao at his weakest- bet he doesn't like that section much, hehehe.
Meeting up with Zhao after two more pages! He's baaaaack.
firnheledien
Sep. 15th, 2007 04:55 am (UTC)
I just love the page with Zhao and Arnook at the Spirit Oasis. Really nice way of conveying the story with just images and no (or very little dialogue).

You are an excellent storyteller! And Arnook's lines in the last page are pure gold.
rufftoon
Sep. 15th, 2007 03:20 pm (UTC)
Many thanks. I tried keeping the dialogue and explanations to a minimum but...it is hard!! I need a good editor.
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